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dts720666 · Jun 11, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43

This is NOT a thread asking ANet to implement an Auction House. I don't think they will be doing that in GWEN...and maybe not in GW2.

But how about human players becoming super-scaled down versions of one? In GW, we see runners and power levelers "for hire." How about a person who will sell my stuff for me? A player could probably make quite a bit of gw gold doing almost nothing but buying and selling from other players. And if I knew a few players (say one in LA, one in Kamadan, and one in Kaineng Center) were always available to buy and/or sell my golds for me, I would use them.

I would be willing to pay a person 1k plus 10% commission to sell my gold weps, mods, and elite tomes for me. The only problem would be people stealing my stuff, but if I had someone I could trust, I would use them all the time for this. For example, if I had a 30k Icy Dragon Sword for Sale, I would be thrilled to have someone sell it for me, and pay them 4k (1k plus 10%) to sell it for me. (I know, I know, I could probably sell it in 2 minutes if I just sold it for 25k, but I HATE selling stuff in game...BTW, I don't have an IDS for sale...this is just an example).

For lower end stuff, I could sell stuff to an "auction house for hire" at a 50% discount, or just at a flat rate of 1k per item.

Tell you what, if you want to be an "auction house for hire" PM me in game "Mahal El" or "Hit Me Hit Me", and I'll sell you ALL my current gold weapons for 1k each. I think I have between 5 and 10 right now. Some of them are max, req9. If I merched them, I would only get 300-500g. If I sold them to you, I get 1k each. If you spend a few minutes selling them, you will make your money back plus extra.

pamelf · Jun 12, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Too easy to scam... It's a good idea, but only if players actually trust you.

Belzan · Jun 12, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I actually do this already with my guild mates and allies. If I didn't have a full inventory at the moment, I'd take you up on the offer.

Belzan

Kook~NBK~ · Jun 12, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

And the $$$'s light up in the eyes of the scammers!

Scamin' Sam: Surrreeee... I'll sell that Elemental sword for you, just give it to me and I'll take care of the rest!

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30 seconds after trade: "Scamin' Sam is ignoring you."

Belzan · Jun 12, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Yes, there is the potential for scamming here, unless you know the value of the items you're having sold. Given his proposal of 1k per gold item, he makes a quick 10k and empties his inventory of 10 items while the seller is left to work to earn a profit. Granted, you can earn lots of gold by selling golds, but there is the work involved. Some people don't want to spend time doing the work and are willing to pay someone else to do it.

My making the transaction immediately (selling the gold item for 1k) there is less chance for lying and scamming, again, only if you know the value of the item you are asking to sell. Be safe, start off with a moderately expensive item (something that you won't miss and that you won't freak out about if you get scammed. Midline minipets are great for this). After the initial transaction, it is up to the seller to sell the item to turn a profit and prove to dts720666 that he or she has done so to get the 10%.

dts720666 says he will pay 1k + 10% of sale, which means the seller must prove the sale price. After proving this, dts720666 is expected to pony up the 10%. If he doesn't, discontinue business by refusing to sell any more of his items until you get paid (or all together). This keeps the seller from being scammed by dts720666.

On the flip side, dts720666 must rely on trusting the seller not to run with his item. For low price items 10k or below, the sting of a scam doesn't hurt as much (it still sucks though). In order to keep from being scammed, dts720666 must be knowledgeable of what the item is worth (spend some time on GWGuru auctions for that).

There is a level of trust in a guild and alliance (hopefully). The way I do this system, since trading is free to allies for us, is simple.

I offer to auction/sell any item for allies/guildmates for free. The benefit? More items means more feedback for me at auction. I do accept tips from allies/guildies, but I will never ask for compensation. In addition, they give me the items (hence my full storage) and I handle the transaction. When the item is sold, I send them a link to the closed auction (if they ask for it) and I give them the money/items for the sold item. I often get a little something for my trouble and in one case I have a system where I mod weapons to increase value and get 25% of their sale value (which is a double edged sword).

Using another player to auction your item hinges on trusting that other player. It is hard to report someone who says they'll pay you and then doesn't. You must be careful and pay attention to trade windows, even read up on scams in guildwiki to know what people are doing at the present time.

In my opinion, you can't go wrong by gwguru auction. It is essentially a binding contract where you can leave negative feedback if you get guff from another player and you don't have to let go of your item unless the buyer pays the agreed amount. It takes most of the trust out of the equation. Set some ground rules about payment and contact for transaction and you're good to go.

Hope that helps.